Admindreeves (Cofounder, Beeminder)

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    Admindreeves (Cofounder, Beeminder) commented  · 

    Love this! And we'll get there eventually! But you should absolutely make something like this rather than wait around for us. Oh, and one of our recent additions to our competitors page -- http://blog.beeminder.com/competitors -- namely, Fitsby, might be similar to what you're envisioning.

    Really appreciate you putting the idea on our feedback forum, btw. Please keep doing so!

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    Admindreeves (Cofounder, Beeminder) commented  · 

    Thank you, Emi! We had just noticed this problem, too. You should be able to fix it by clicking All Data, though. But we'll also fix this; you're right that it's super confusing!

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    Admindreeves (Cofounder, Beeminder) commented  · 

    Ah, good catch! We're working hard to revamp that and make it moot but I'll explain it here in the meantime: It's the number of days starting tomorrow that you can get away with not reporting anything. So it's similar to the countdown timer, but more conservative since it isn't live-updated.

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    Admindreeves (Cofounder, Beeminder) commented  · 

    Mike, this is great feedback for us! It's easier said than done since Beeminder is constantly changing, of course. :) See http://beeminder.com/meta/uvi

    We'd especially love to hear about specific things that took trial and error to figure out. Ultimately we hope to have everything be so intuitive and self-explanatory that there's little need for a user guide. We're gradually getting there. You should've seen us a year ago...

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    Admindreeves (Cofounder, Beeminder) commented  · 

    Well said! Agreed and upvoted, though of course this is easier said than done, at least in the short term.

    (We hugely appreciate this kind of technical feedback and if you'd like we'd be delighted to add you as a member of our trello boards. They should be publicly readable at trello.com/beeminder )

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    Admindreeves (Cofounder, Beeminder) commented  · 

    Love this idea. For future greppability/googlability, I'd probably call these visual milestones on the graph.

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    Admindreeves (Cofounder, Beeminder) commented  · 

    Agreed and upvoted! Note that you can currently do this for the case of X=1 at least: http://beeminder.uservoice.com/forums/3011-general/suggestions/2293507-turn-off-bot-reminders-but-still-get-warnings-for-

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    Admindreeves (Cofounder, Beeminder) commented  · 

    Agreed! I want this too! It will be a while though. I think the right way to do it is basically fully realtime continuous beeminding. Where you can actually watch the dot gradually flatlining towards derailment until you add data and make it jump up. All the things that are now messy parameter settings or hard-coded (like midnight deadline, 3am refresh, goal date, etc) could become totally intuitive / visual manipulations of the graph. Literally grab the yellow brick road and make it do anything, bump it up or down slightly to change your deadline, add temporary flat spots, retroratchet yourself by making it super steep for a few seconds -- the akrasia horizon would also slide forward in real time. First step: port the graphs to D3!

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    Admindreeves (Cofounder, Beeminder) commented  · 

    @Fruitful, want to stop by http://beeminder.com/chat ?

    Admindreeves (Cofounder, Beeminder) commented  · 

    Agreed! Can't tell you how much we appreciate these comments and ideas! Btw, the video that Fruitful is presumably referring to is http://dreev.es/howtobee and is a bit out of date, though I think still useful (and super cute in my biased opinion!).

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    Admindreeves (Cofounder, Beeminder) commented  · 

    My first reaction is that this doesn't sound worth the added UI complexity, especially when you can kind of achieve this (albeit crudely) by changing the slope of the road with the road dial. But I might be biased in not having had a need for this feature personally!

    Thanks for adding this! Let's see if it gets more upvotes.

    Keep the ideas coming!

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    Admindreeves (Cofounder, Beeminder) commented  · 

    Wow, thanks so much, Ben! Maybe a better place for this would be a post on the Beeminder blog? Are you into guest blogging?

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    Admindreeves (Cofounder, Beeminder) commented  · 

    Ooh, relevant excerpt from http://blog.beeminder.com/flexbind ...

    -----
    Such is the powerful psychology of “don’t break the chain”, also known as the Seinfeld hack. But the Seinfeld hack’s greatest strength is also its fatal flaw: Once you do break the chain, all the motivation it provided bursts like a bubble. You’ve got to somehow motivate yourself to build up another long chain to not break. Until then you’re on a “one more day won’t matter” slippery slope of sloth.
    -----

    But this is a cool idea for maybe having the best of both worlds! I'll discuss with Bethany et al and also see if this gets more upvotes. Thanks so much for the idea!

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    Admindreeves (Cofounder, Beeminder) commented  · 

    Thanks Scott! I think I like this solution better though:
    http://beeminder.uservoice.com/forums/3011-general/suggestions/3035767-custom-default-value-for-failure-to-report

    What do you think?

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    Admindreeves (Cofounder, Beeminder) commented  · 

    Hear hear! I think the biggest thing holding us back is Stripe keys or godknowswhat that's in our git history.

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    Admindreeves (Cofounder, Beeminder) commented  · 

    I like kdecker's proposal a lot! We're just barely ramen-profitable right now so we're actually already (vacuously) implementing her proposal! :)

    @Chris, a problem I see with your proposal is that there's a lot of value in having the consequences for failure be both harsh and immediate. Otherwise you can get into a "ok, i'll cough it up this month and get back on track next month" kind of trap. Or like "I'm already off track, what's a bit more?"

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    2 comments  ·  General  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
    Admindreeves (Cofounder, Beeminder) commented  · 

    The pop-up should be green now; is that better? :)
    Oh yes, and there's a gray happy-face watermark on the graph.

    But yes, we definitely agree there's more to be done here. Great point about the "useless but strangely motivating" stuff that other sites do. We're slightly allergic to that sort of thing but there's a lot more we could do that wouldn't be too nauseating. We'll get there!

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    Admindreeves (Cofounder, Beeminder) commented  · 

    We do like having the full generality. Bethany talks about this in http://dreev.es/howtobee for example.

    You're right that that's confusing, especially when first creating a weight loss goal. But if we made it smarter then it would be confusing later if you wanted to actually have the road slope up! Tricky...

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    Admindreeves (Cofounder, Beeminder) commented  · 

    Ok, enough rationalizing the status quo. You're totally right, Robin. Instead of justifying an esoteric definition of "safe days" we need to just give a "time to derailment".

    Admindreeves (Cofounder, Beeminder) commented  · 

    Shorter version of the counterargument: an "emergency" day doesn't count as a "safe" day. And since we think of it as a safety *buffer* we're counting safe days starting tomorrow.

    Wrong lane ==> no safety buffer.

    Admindreeves (Cofounder, Beeminder) commented  · 

    My counterargument:

    1. The true yellow brick road is the centerline so if you're in the wrong lane you're sort of in arrears already.

    2. If you're in the wrong lane then there are no (zero) more safe days -- tomorrow you'll be off the road. (Yes, tomorrow you'll only *start* off the road and can still get back on by the end of the day, but you really shouldn't be letting that happen anyway!)

    3. Think of it as "how many more days can I do nothing?"

    4. It's arguably going to be confusing either way, so better to err on the side of caution. If you misinterpret the number of safe days as defined now, then you'll be a day ahead of schedule. If we do it your way then misinterpreting = derailment!

    I do see your point though and if the above doesn't convince you, let me know! It does seem inelegant to ever say "-1 safe days".

    Now I'm wondering if a better solution would be to always say exactly how many days or hours/minutes/seconds remain till derailment. That's tough for now with our static graph images, but that may be the eventual answer. (Thanks for the help in thinking this through!)

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    2 comments  ·  General  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
    Admindreeves (Cofounder, Beeminder) commented  · 

    @Robert, are you hoping for more than the "bare min" shown in the goal stats in the sidebar? Like you want to be able to actually say "if i work out on monday and then again on thursday, will that keep me on the yellow brick road?"

    My own way of using Beeminder is pretty myopic: when does my next workout have to be? I'll worry about the rest later, or just try to build a safety buffer whenever I can. But if were that good at planning my future workouts I feel like I wouldn't need to beemind the workouts in the first place.

    Interested to hear other perspectives on this.

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